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I'll be fighting Space wolves, crons, nids and chaos.

Kabal of the Shadow's claw

HQ

Dracon
Punisher (20), tormentor pistol (5), combat drugs (25) and shadow field (25).

Total=110

Incubi retinue (6)
6 with punisher and tormentor helm. Total=150

TROOPS

Warrior squad (10)
8 with splinter rifles and 2 with dark lances (20). Total=100

Warrior squad (10)
8 with splinter rifles and 2 with dark lances (20).Total=100

Warrior squad (10)
5 with splinter rifles, 2 with splinter cannons (20), 2 with shredders (20) and sybarite (6) with splinter pistol (1) and agoniser (20). Total=147

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20) and splinter pistol (1). Total=122

Raider
Dark lance. Total=55

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20) and splinter pistol (1). Total=122

Raider
Disintergrator (5). Total=60

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20), splinter pistol (1) and webway portal (50). Total=172

Raider
Disintergrator (5). Total=60


FAST ATTACK

Reaver jetbike squad (5)
4 with splinter pistols, 3 splinter rifles and 2 with blasters (20). Reaver succubus (16) with agoniser (20). Total=181

HEAVY SUPPORT

Ravager
3 disintergrators (15). Total=120

TOTAL=1499

Total models=76

HQ=17%
Elite=0%
Troops=63%
Fast attack=12%
Heavy support=8%
 

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You really should get a whych squad to help out in assaults, put them in a raider, and move them around in with your raider squads. Don't know what you should drop in favour though, I would either go with the reaver squad or a one raider squad. Drop one of those in favour of whyches that is
 

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ya, add a few more to the reaver squad, I hated playing against those, and damn, that is a whole lot of models for the points, I have like 40 in my 1500 army....
 

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Dracon
Punisher (20), tormentor pistol (5), combat drugs (25) and shadow field (25).

Total=110

Incubi retinue (6)
6 with punisher and tormentor helm. Total=150
That's fine so far. Many players prefer an Archon though, with five incubi instead.
Right now, this unit has more punch per model than such an Archon+five incubi unit, but once the incubi are dead the lone surviving Archon will pack more punch than a lone dracon. It's personal preferance though.

You should definitely get a raider for this unit, a WWP is not recommended for the HQ.

Warrior squad (10)
8 with splinter rifles and 2 with dark lances (20). Total=100

Warrior squad (10)
8 with splinter rifles and 2 with dark lances (20).Total=100
These are fine. Typical "sniper squads"

Warrior squad (10)
5 with splinter rifles, 2 with splinter cannons (20), 2 with shredders (20) and sybarite (6) with splinter pistol (1) and agoniser (20). Total=147
I don't think that this one is a good idea. Definitely change the shredders to blasters, these are clearly superior. With some points from elsewhere you could boost the squad size to 13 or 17 though, then it's a nice moving fire base. Perhaps you could drop the sybarithe in order to save points.

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20) and splinter pistol (1). Total=122

Raider
Dark lance. Total=55

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20) and splinter pistol (1). Total=122
Raider
Disintergrator (5). Total=60

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20), splinter pistol (1) and webway portal (50). Total=172

Raider
Disintergrator (5). Total=60
These are optimal too - i'd drop the WWP though, and instead i would get a raider for the HQ. You could also reduce one of these squads to six warriors and no sybarithe, in order to save points in order to boost the reaver squad's size.

Reaver jetbike squad (5)
4 with splinter pistols, 3 splinter rifles and 2 with blasters (20). Reaver succubus (16) with agoniser (20). Total=181
First off, the splinter pistols of reaver pilots are the most useless thing in the DE list - the reaver mounted splinter rifle is clearly superior, and you can't fire both at the same time.
I think you should boost the squad size to six. Then you have three meat shields, and you can take exactly three casualties without being below 50% - optimal!
The succubus should be armed with a normal power weapon. She already is S4, so you wound most opponents as least as good as with an agonizer, and with a S+1 drug roll you can get a S5 succubus. Such a drug roll would be wasted with an agonizer, and reavers aren't supposed to fight things like wraithlords anyway, as they're too expensive per model and shouldn't fight things which ignore armour saves. Her other equipment should be a t-helm for an extra attack, and haywires (just for the case that a vehicle survives the two blaster shots).

Ravager
3 disintergrators (15). Total=120
*evil grin*

jwu
 

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Kabal of the Shadow's claw

HQ

Archon
Punisher (20), tormentor pistol (5), combat drugs (25) and shadow field (25). Total=135

Incubi retinue (6)
6 with punisher and tormentor helm. Total=150

Raider
Disintergrator (5). Total=60

TROOPS

Warrior squad (10)
8 with splinter rifles and 2 with dark lances (20). Total=100

Warrior squad (10)
8 with splinter rifles and 2 with dark lances (20).Total=100

Warrior squad (10)
6 with splinter rifles, 2 with splinter cannons (20) and 2 with blasters (10). Total=110

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20) and splinter pistol (1). Total=122

Raider
Dark lance. Total=55

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20) and splinter pistol (1). Total=122

Raider
Disintergrator (5). Total=60

Raider squad (10)
7 with splinter rifles, 1 with splinter cannon (10) and 1 with blaster (5). Sybarite (6) with agoniser (20), splinter pistol (1).Total=122

Raider
Disintergrator (5). Total=60

FAST ATTACK

Reaver jetbike squad (5)
4 with splinter pistols, 3 splinter rifles and 2 with blasters (20). Reaver succubus (16) with power weapon (15), tomentor helm (5) haywire (4). Total=185

HEAVY SUPPORT

Ravager
3 disintergrators (15). Total=120

TOTAL=1501

Total models=77

HQ=23%
Elite=0%
Troops=57%
Fast attack=12%
Heavy support=8%
 
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