Pariahs or Immortals?

9/10 people will say that immortals are better, they play up to necrons strengths (high firepower) and they count towards phase out.

A better question to ask would be are pariahs better than the other units that do not count towards phase out (monolith, c'tan etc). What let pariahs down are their massive cost and lack of WBB, I personally wouldn't use them in a 1500 list unless you aren't taking a monolith (in which case I would urge you to take one).

I love pariahs but in a 1500 list they are too much of a risk to be really any good, they are great for friendlies down your local club/GW but for anything else they are pants.

As for their roles, pariahs are pretty much immortals with warscythes and are S5, they lose out fom that amazing loadout and statline because they have too low I to be really effective.

Against marines they are pretty good and can carve bloody ruin, but they really have to go toe-to-toe with terminatoes to earn their points, no sesible SM player would ever put their terminators up against the only necron unit that can beat them.

I would honestly love to say take pariahs but they should practically never be taken in games of 1500 points or less (at 1750 a squad of them are rather good IMO).

Hope this helps.

paranoid said:

Argh! Im confused again! What are the pros of Immortals? Their Gauss Blaster?

Because pariahs have a blaster built into their warscythes so surely pariahs would be a better option because they look cooler and have better stats. Also they can accompany my lord with his warscythe.

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Specifically, the big pro about Immortals is that they are necrons (lower-case to refer to the rule rather than the Necrons army). That means they can get back up, they make your phase-out number bigger, and they can be teleported around the board. Pariahs do none of the above. Most people put their warscythe Lord on a destroyer body OR give him a Veil of Darkness for better mobility (and what a risk that is!), and the Pariahs can't keep up with him either way. And frankly, if you're not doing one of the two for your Lord, he's going to be in trouble; slow-moving CC needs to be a little tougher than that to justify the expense.

Gojiratoho's Pariah Tactica does a great job of describing situations for using Pariahs well. I'd strongly suggest that you read that and proxy a unit of them in a friendly game or two to get a handle on them before shelling out for the models. Strictly speaking, you could do the same for Immortals, but for most Necron lists, the choice there is pretty cut-and-dried. Odds are that you'll want to do the "Flying Circus" thing eventually.

Unrelated note: Oh, how I wish Lords could use Pariah warscythes.