Poll: monolith penetration

Powerfists are completely useless against the monolith.

See my comments in the original post. I have a very strong argument against the use of powerfists augmented strength against a monolith.

Synopsis:
The powerfist strength increase is only effective when the powerfist is used in CC. Because a powerfist DOES NOT increase the STR of the weilder it is therefore "augmented" strength. The monolith clearly states that only "unaugmented" strength can be used against it and this includes powerfists.

Please do not continue the discussion here. If you would like to voice your opinion, please do so in the original thread.

No strong arguments necessary.

The v4.0.1 FAQ clearly states the ONLY exception to the Living Metal is the Vindicare assassin's turbo penetrating bullet.

the power fist does not lower the armour value of the monolith it just increases the users strength so power fists count against monoliths. Also, its really not thta scary considering it gives a normal SM S 8 so they still have to get 6's.

yea id say it would, and people would defintly chase the monolith with a powerfist, but needing 6's to hit and wound is nothing special. They mean things that affect vehicles directly, like brightlances and the like, the monolith is already good enough already (i want to add one, mabye two, to my necron army.):shifty: Because powerfists also get the effect against troops, augmented would be like a birght lance or somethign liek that, this is what annoys me about the rules, they are WAY to open ended, as in they leave the descriptions very vauge so people argue about it. But all in all, i say i powerfist would work against a monolith

Even if it did work who would hit a lith with a pf because it will probably kill hte model with the p-fist befor it can hit anyway right( don't play crons and I haven't played against them yet)

as a last resort someone would mabye sarcrifice the rements of a tactical squad with a sergent with a powerfist to attempt to blow up the monolith if they have no heavy weapons left. Normally, u want to keep the monolith out of spitting distance, but thats why u deep strike it :w00t:.. or thats what im gonna do at least when i get one or two!

o yea and brother ares..nice spartan quote in your sig

as a last resort someone would mabye sarcrifice the rements of a tactical squad with a sergent with a powerfist to attempt to blow up the monolith if they have no heavy weapons left. Normally, u want to keep the monolith out of spitting distance, but thats why u deep strike it :w00t:.. or thats what im gonna do at least when i get one or two!


EDIT:eh..sorry for double post

I can see that. and thanks for likeing the siq.

There is something wrong with this poll you must use the original unaugmented strenght against the monolith so that would be a 4 and well you cant roll a 10 on a 6 sided dice normally so the only options that should have votes are no and who would chase the darn thing anyway.

Poll closed. It is quite cleear from the rules that weapons that multiply a users strength, like powerfists, do not work against the monolith.