[jonsolo]

Hello All,

I'm new to DE and have recently played a couple of 500pt games in a build campaign my local game store is holding. The first game I played my opponent stated that must take a
-1 to hit when firing two shots. Since he had played as a DE general in past, I took his word. After the games and when I was at home, I started reviewing the rules and couldn't find where it states this (rules book and DE army book).

So, to make a long story short, when firing 2 bolts for a repeator xbow, is -1 to hit modifier applied?

Thanks in Advance!

 

[Khamal]

Well you really cant ask such a question because you are asking about for a rule.. not a situation about a rule you know..
All I can say is if in the DE codex if it says multiple shots under the repeater crossbow rules then look for multiple shots rule in the warhammer rule book. It is there somewhere, maybe under the missle weapon section page. Anyways if you still cant find it tell your friend to show you in the book because he musta read it somewhere to find a rule like that.

Sorry I couldnt tell you more

 

[tus666]

In the old edition rules the -1 modifier did apply, but after checking my DE army book i can't find any thing about the modifier, so maybe they ditched it.

 

[Vindkall]

In the old edition rules the -1 modifier did apply, but after checking my DE army book i can't find any thing about the modifier, so maybe they ditched it.

Let me guess, you thought about reading the second post but didn't, the rules for Repeater Crossbows are on page 92 and the rules for multiple shots are on page 90 in the BRB (WHFB Rulebook)

 

[MrPink]

Could I just point out, if the -1 rule didn't apply for multi shot, why would anyone ever fire single shot hehe.

Actually, under no circumstances have I ever fired single shots from my crossbowmen..Lol

 

[tus666]

what about when shooting at skirmishers, in hard cover??? Still use multiple shots......

 

[Teron]

Let's observe three groups of 30 shooters, one group without special rules, one with +1 to hit and one with Multiple Shots (x2)

Base score: 1+
30 shots at 1+ to hit: 25 hits (Effectively 2+)
30 shots at 0+ to hit: 25 hits (Effectively 2+)
60 shots at 2+ to hit: 50 hits

Base score: 2+
30 shots at 2+ to hit: 25 hits
30 shots at 1+ to hit: 25 hits (Effectively 2+)
60 shots at 3+ to hit: 40 hits

Base score: 3+
30 shots at 3+ to hit: 20 hits
30 shots at 2+ to hit: 25 hits
60 shots at 4+ to hit: 30 hits

Base score: 4+
30 shots at 4+ to hit: 15 hits
30 shots at 3+ to hit: 20 hits
60 shots at 5+ to hit: 20 hits

Base score: 5+
30 shots at 5+ to hit: 10 hits
30 shots at 4+ to hit: 15 hits
60 shots at 6+ to hit: 10 hits

Base score: 6+
30 shots at 6+ to hit: 5 hits
30 shots at 5+ to hit: 10 hits
60 shots at 7+ to hit: 5 hits

Base score: 7+
30 shots at 7+ to hit: 2,5 hits
30 shots at 6+ to hit: 5 hits
60 shots at 8+ to hit: 10/3, ie. 3,33333... hits

Base score: 8+
30 shots at 8+ to hit: 5/3, ie. 1,6666... hits
30 shots at 7+ to hit: 2,5 hits
60 shots at 9+ to hit: 10/6, ie. 1,6666... hits

Base score: 9+
30 shots at 9+ to hit: 5/6, ie. 0,83333... hits
30 shots at 8+ to hit: 5/3, ie. 1,6666... hits
60 shots at 10+ to hit: 0 hits (Impossible!)

Base score: 10+
30 shots at 10+ to hit: 0 hits (Impossible!)
30 shots at 9+ to hit: 5/6, ie. 0,83333... hits
60 shots at 11+ to hit: 0 hits (Impossible!)


+1 To Hit is always superior to normal shooting, so long as the target isn't so easy to hit it'd be a 2+ without the bonus anyway

Multiple Shots (x2) is always either superior or equal to normal shooting, so long as it doesn't make it impossible to hit the enemy.

Volley fire is extremely lethal when the target is easy to hit, otherwise precision fire prevails.