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i've got a litle fluff and scenery question. do the tau use sandbags to crouch behind or do they've got some other kind of simple defense structure??

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Originally posted by shas@Oct 23 2003, 15:36
i've got a litle fluff and scenery question. do the tau use sandbags to crouch behind or do they've got some other kind of simple defense structure??

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I dont think that they would use sandbags b/c it says in the fluffthat tau do not hold defensive ground.
 

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Well they have to, sometimes. Commander Farsight was forced to hold a defensive posistion against Orks for a long time, I'll bet he used some kind of cover for his troops.

As to what... well, sandbags are quick and easy, and thuse universally useful. I doubt the technology of the Tau can really help the firewarriors when their pinned down and forced to defend themselves. Enter the shovel/sandbag, it will probably last forever.
 

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Proparbly not sandbags, but how about maybe having some portable forcefield generator with cloaking or something to make it invisible to the enemy.
The Tau are really, REALLY high tech so what should stop them from using something like that?

Even though some might think they use sandbags I doubt the firewarriors make them by theirselves... maybe they have some sort of digging drone to do the job.
 

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I don't think the Tau would use sandbags, too low tech. I like the idea of the invisible force field!! Would be very cool, with special rules..........
 

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Although it would be very hard to model something like that...
Perhaps putting up pieces of glass to symbolize the forcefield.
Either they use forcefiled or maybe they even have some gargantuan drone type that is developed specifically to work as a wall of some sort... maybe a flying wall piece.
Could be an idea...
 

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you could make a wall of perspex or other lookthrough plastic and put on the two outer points shield drones and you could call the forsshielddrones. its easy and you cold ue the same statistics as they already have so an invulnerable 4+save w 1 and T 3or you could give the m an armour save of 10 and any penetrating hit destroys the wal.

its just an idea

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See now, that's where I disagree.

As mentioned, the Tau don't use tactics that involve fortifications and remaining stationary. So, it seems unlikely that they'd have technology developed for that purpose. If they are forced into that situation, it seems reasonable that they could find some sand and something to put it in, but where are they gonna get hulking wall drones or stealth force fields out of the wilderness?

Sand bags=impromptu

Force fields designed for the job=Tau planned on sitting defensively, (unlikely I think).
 

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what i actually meant is that you can move your forceshieldwall because they're made of shielddrones so you could use it everywhere where its needded. you can even decide not to use the wall anymore and let the drones join a unit. or you could use two drones, who have been attached to two units, go thogether to form a wall. it isn't sitting defensively it is using the technologies you have,

but thats my humble opinion :ph34r:

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Well, that's fine if that's your interest, but that wouldn't really require different rules. There are already rules for attaching shield drones to a unit, (as you know).
 

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The Fire Warriors are using sandbags on page 45 of the Tau codex. The one with Aun'shi.
 

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I imagine they use whatever is available and make do with structures around them to create defensive positions. They will hold defensive positions for a purpose but not for last stands. I imagine they could use sand bags or anything else they threw together.
 

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If they really had to, i think the Tau would have to use parts from an old vehicle, maybe a hammerhead or Devilfish, for the purpose of bunkers. That would be a unique piece of terrain...an immoblised vehicle that is used as a bunker........I like that, maybe i'll do that.... :ph34r:
 

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Yeh, as ya sed on pg 45 of codex aunshi's defence is usin sandbags.
But i like the immovable tank idea. Sounds cool to me.
that perspex wall idea was ok but a dont think they could get a massive wall from no-where when they pinned down by nids or marines do u? :ph34r:
 

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Originally posted by ShaselMudd@Oct 25 2003, 07:30
I imagine they use whatever is available and make do with structures around them to create defensive positions. They will hold defensive positions for a purpose but not for last stands. I imagine they could use sand bags or anything else they threw together.
They hold a last stand against the orks in the codex, I believe it's aunshi's battle story actually.
 

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it is indeed that battle and i know that you can always find sand to make some sandbags, but i think that onceagain the tau have to be different (better ;) ) then the rest of the universe. necrons wouldn't use sandbags either and i think that the tau must use something stornger then sandbags and something mobile ( like mentioned before )


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I think it's pretty safe to say that the Tau are smart. A smart commander (or soldier, for that matter) doesn't waste valuable resources on a portable force field when something more reliable and efficient is already available. Sand is plentiful, and burlap (or the equivalent) is VERY cheap. A wall of sand bags takes very little time to prepare, and almost NO maintenace. A force field would take hours or even days to manufacture, and a whole TEAM of non combat specialists to calibrate, maintain and repair (even if it's a team of one, that's still plenty of rations, pay and medical care to pay for). Just because they're technologically superior, doesn't mean they've eschewed low-tech devices and implements. Believe it or not this fits with the fluff of not using defenses or remaining stationary...... if yer gonna advance or fall back, you need something to advance or fall back TO. Yah wrecked peices of a ship is a cool Idea, but they'd be awfully hard to position quickly, as for sandbags, they are easy to move, and can be stacked on the fly to almost any formation required. As far as protection goes sand is almost as good as you can get without an actual BUNKER; projectiles won't often penetrate, as it deforms them and disperses kinetic energy VERY quickly, and THEORETICALLY it should stop most small arms energy weapons too, as it would heat up/ explode/ get vapourised almost instantaneously while NOT dispersing any significant amount of that energy back to the covered troops. Wrecked sandbags also serve a purpose too, as sand has VERY little puchase for feet; assaulting a shot up sandbag emplacement is nearly an effort in futility. All this, and High Command will NEVER cry when you leave it behind after the battle is done.


I can't think of anything as cheap that works quite as well as a sandbags, and I doubt there ever will be. The closest thing will probably be SYNTHETIC sand, especially made to absorb energy weapons fire.


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how about expanding foam like the insulating stuff?

its halfway between hi-tech and sandbags; plus you could model little canisters of it on your fire warriors backs and give them a turn to deploy their little mobile wall
 

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Maybe it a real dense goo or something
 
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