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I just wondering what happened to sigmar? I've heard a few reasons what happened they are:

He left to return his hammer to the dwarfs (This makes no sense, coz the Emperor (sp?) has Ghal Maraz )

He was saving a bunch of people (don't know who), from a bloodthirster and was dragged into the relms of chaos.

And the last is the Sigmar just rode off into the east (and then what? he becomes a God?) :blink:

Anyone else heard another version?

Thanks for your time
 

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Doesn't something in the rulebook point out that he just travelled back to the dwarfs, returned the hammer and then just sort of sat down in the hall of heroes?
Sort of as in valhalla or something?
 

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Thats what I've read but, the Emperor Karl-Franz and all the others before him have had Sigmar's hammer. So how could he return it to the dwarfs?
 

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Hmmm you say something there...
Maybe the hammer works as some sort of a relic that passes down to every successing emperor after Sigmar. The the thing could be that every following emperor would have to return the hammer when his time is over.
 

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i reckon he rode of into the east and dies there (of old age and then becomes a god)
 

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I read that entry last night...
The entry says that he returned the hammer to it's forging, and then further made it avaliable to bring back to the ones that proved worthy.
For himself i rode off into the east to joint the gods in their halls...
ANyway I'll see if I'll post the entire entry later today, then you can judge for yourself...
 

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Sigmar united the Empire and fought many battle. He saved the dwarf king from an Orcish warband and was given his famous hammer. He traveled back to the dwarfs at the end of his life, to return it to the dwarf king. This does not happen thogh, because the hammer is used to trap a greater demon. The hammer was taken from the demon-prison and given back to the Emperor that follows Karl-Franz. His name is Heinrich Todbringer. Heinrich Todbringer throws the hammer at the released demon and banish it together with Sigmars hammer.
Karl Franz never had the Gahl Maraz, but the "warhammer battle" just names the emperors weapon to be Sigmars hammer wich is not "historicaly correct". They do this with alot of ancient relics and it adds color to the game + gives players alot more variety.
 

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If this is true then how come Karl- Franz has a Magic hammer made by the dwarfs called GHAL MARAZ? :huh: This is off of the GW rules for Karl-Franz, this is Sigmars hammer as it has 4 Dwarf runes and 2 of these are Master runes . This breaks 2 of the rules for runic weapons (1 Master rune per weapon, max 3 runes per item).
 

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I've played Warhammer fantasy roleplay for 12 years. The story of Sigmar is very important there, and I gave you the short version.

In Warhammer Battle, Karl Franz IS using the hammer of Sigmar, but it's "historically incorrect". As I stated I guess it's said to give more color to the game. Acording to RPG history, Karl Franz was only a bit powerful for a few years before growing weak with disease, and finally killed by a chaos cultist.
 

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RPG Warhammer's history is terribly flawed and inaccurate. In fact i cannot find a good comprehensive warhammer history without finding some horrendous deal. The Warhammer Fantasy storyline is the official storyline and Karl Franz is very much alive. Not only did he convene the Conclave of Light but in a future issue of White Dwarf he will meet Valten the Champion of Sigmar and find out that their fates are intertwined. As for the hammer, Sigmar did indeed take it with him in his journey east. Nobody knows what happened to Sigmar and thats the entire point. He left the empire he forged and ascended to godhood. He did not grow old and die nor did he somehow fall through a warp gate chasing some demon prince. As for the hammer itself, it must be assumed it never reached Karaz-A-Karak. It must also be assumed that the only other wielder of the hammer is Karl Franz and possibly Valten soon. If it was passed down between emperors, the church would have held it during the civil wars and most definitly brought it out for the great war against chaos. And Magnus specifically is described as using a sword. I doubt the story of how Karl Franz obtained it will ever be told.
 

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From the 6th edition rulebook, (p286) it says that SIGMAR gave his hammer to the dwarfs, as has been stated. however, as the emerors have ghal maraz, not only Karl Franz, it seems that the dwarfs gave it back (probably because they wereto proud to keep a gift that they gave to humans)
Magnus probably used a sword as he did not have access at the time of the Great war to the vault where, in the recent white dwarf article, it states that the hammer is stored. Alternatively, the sword may be a Runefang, but I doubt it.........
 

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We know that he went to give it to them, but there is no record of the dwarfs ever receiving it. But Sigmar is suppose to have taken it to them, then what? Does he live in a cave somewhere in the World Edge Mountains? Or is he dead? No-one knows, but I've heard a bunch of different reasons what happened.

But your right the Emperor's do have Ghal Maraz, but now Valten does. Karl Franz gave it to him in the story in WD 288, and it's even better in Valten's hands.
 

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it does tell what happens to sigmar, just indirectly. Its a creative device to relate how Sigmar finally ascended to godhood and became (arguably) the most powerful god.
 

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Personally, I think that Games Workshop have not told us this deliberately, as to make all plots finished would leave them no room for expansion.
Also, they may well have done this to invited speculation (like this) on the subject

If this is true, then there is no ACTUAL answer, but I think the idea of a cave is one worthy of thought.
 

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I dunno, Sigmar is a more proactive kinda guy than just chilling out in a cave.
 

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Very true, although he might use his special divine powers to leave only his physical form in the cave.

Personally, after more thought, I think that:
The Dwarfs returned the Hammer with the Runefangs, and that Sigmar was taken to some kind of God-place
Long live the Emperor
 
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