Some more IG modelling questions.

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Addoran

Discussion Starter · Jan 29, 2006

Hey, I'm just in the process of working out my IG army. I think I've got everything right (see my list in the army list section for feedback) - there's just a couple more things I'd like to ask so everything is perfect.

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Question 1: Many people say they convert 'extra' heavy weapons when they buy the heavy weapons box set from the spare sprues. The problem is the lack of crewmen. I'm in a similiar fix, lots of heavy weapons spare but I'll have to convert the crew. Can anyone give me advice on a good and easy method of making heavy weapons crews? Particularly pictures of their efforts would be appreciated.

Question 2: I've seen people describe how they have made plasma guns by kit-bashing a flamer and a plasma pistol. Same question again applies really, can anyone give me more detailed feedback/pictures of their efforts?

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Addoran

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Xethemez

· #2 · Jan 29, 2006

Hi Addoran, all 4 types of Heavy Weapon come in a single pack, so the only problem is getting multiple crew members and bases. Well the bases are only £0.60 on the online store, and of course guardsmen are easy to come by. It's just poses that limits you.

I don't use tank commanders, so I was able to use the pinitle gunners arms and with some creative conversion voilla...

http://www.patgrinsell.f2s.com/dudes.jpg

Ok, they aren't perfect, but they look fine on the table and it beats the hell out of spending another £20 on a HW box set.

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Addoran

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 29, 2006 (Edited)

Thanks a lot. It was posing them that was giving me the headache.

The original thing that made me want to make an Imperial Guard army was the fact that I have 10 Lascannons and 10 Heavy Stubbers (easily converted to Heavy Bolters) lying around on sprue. You had the same thoughts as I did, if I bought a £20 box set (or even cheaper off Ebay) I would save a LOT of money making 10 heavy weapons teams.

Anyway, thanks a lot for the advice on the pintle gunners arms. I was just needing some inspiration on how to pose the weapon crews. The same situation with the Plasma weapons, I have a load of flamers and a load of Plasma Pistols lying about (saving me considerable money rather than buying Plasma Gunners) but I'd like to see in more detail the method of making Plasma Rifles.

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nougat

· #4 · Jan 29, 2006

I got the IG battleforce so I got 3 Heavy weapons and 3 sprues.

I made up my Heavy bolters lying down too.
If you don't have spare gunning arms, the flamer/grenade launcher arms can work too. Fire with right, steady the gun with outstretched left.

It is easy to put the missile launcer on a normal guy and another can hold the other missile.

I made up crouching guys holding the trigger but didn't glue the gun on. That way I can swap the LC/AC. But can't use both in same game :-(

I tried (blu tack stage only) a set up with the crew assembling the gun. One guy putting the gun together/playing with some configuration stuff. He had the R grenade throwing arm and L lasgun holding stump to give his arms a wide stance. The helper was carrying the battery pack and power cable. This never got glued because I thought the gun didn't look menacing enough without it actually shooting. Also, I needed to make some more grunts. But this idea might get revisited in the future.

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CPT Shortcut

· #5 · Jan 29, 2006

I was also short crew members for my heavy weapons. The fix? No crew.

The codex says it takes two soldier to man a heavy weapon. I doesn't say you have to glue men to it. I just modeled the weapons on a large base and when I use it I put two guards men on the base. Simple. And it frees up a lot of extra soldiers to use for other jobs if I don't use that particular heavy weapon.

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Triumph Of Man

· #6 · Jan 30, 2006

Sorry about the shinyness, even with the flash the light inside was way too dark

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imcdonnell

· #7 · Jan 30, 2006

Heavy Weapons and Poses

Try the following:

For prone and how to do it ...
Click here for ... Prone Figures with Heavy Weapons

For other ideas ...
Click here for ... Heavy Weapons poses

From a single 'team' box you get

1 x Tripod on which you may mount the Heavy Bolter, Lascanon or Autocanon. If you leave this off you can construct the firer using one of the kneeling figures and a spotter using a normal Cadian legs and body with arms / binos etc as you feel fit. If you glue the kneeling Guardsmen to the base you can position him so that eithewr the Autocanon or Heavy bolter can be fired. You will need to cut out a little square of plastic from the Lascanon for this to fit also. In this way you can choose which gun to use each occasion rather than have to have one of each (and 3 kits).

1 x Bipod designed for the Mortar or Missile Launcher. Use this for the Mortar with 2 x Normal Cadians as firers, observers , loaders.

The missile launcher mount on a Normal Guardsman without the bipod nd stick him and a loader on seperate small bases (as used by the normal Cadian Guardsman)

You have one set of kneeling legs left - use these to add variety to Mortar, Missile Launcher or loaders as you wish.

Look at the photos above to see what I hae done.

Regards

Ian

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nougat

· #8 · Jan 30, 2006

imcdonnel - They are cool!! I was doing a similar thing but so far thought that the mortar only looked good with crouching crew members. You show that not to be the case. I like your meltas. Any ideas for making plasma guns out of left over bits?

I am going to make tripods out of sprue/skewers/anything so that I can have LC and AC and HB (or combinations) in the same game. This is where I kinda run out of crouching legs.

A friend has just given me some bits from his land raider (sponsons i think (cos he made the crusader version)). Just thinking now that I could use the gun shield bit to make a slightly more significant gun emplacement and make the gunner from the tank commander which is standing. The gunner could be sitting down on a seat attached to the gun. [not sure if this will look ok -- I'll try it out tonight and let you know]

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imcdonnell

· #9 · Jan 30, 2006

I have added some more photos below which may be of interest.

Click here for ... Heavy Weapons...

1 x Lascanon firer standing - This I think works really well and saves another kneeling set of legs for other convertions.

1 x Plasma gun

This is made from the heavy flamer end which comes on the vehicle accessories sprue. Use the Cadian grenade launcher, removing th barrel just forward of the magazine, cut the flamer in half along its length (as it looks like 2 flamers connected) and cut the end off the flamer and turn it around giving the plasma gun a cone shaped end. The left arm is the arm which holds the grenade launcher. I cut the hand off and turned it to appear to hold the plasma gun from the top so as to make it different. Alternatively have the hand doing something els (holding a canteen, pointing, holding a knife) and stick a knife bayonet handle upright on the plasma gun as a hand grip. See photo for better / picture explanation.

1 x sitting gunner. By using the kneeling figure (with the legs not joined) it is possible to cutthe right leg and some of his backside off and reposition to a sitting pose. Again see the pictures.

Sorry about the quality of the last photos, but hope you can see enough.

Regards

Ian

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Addoran

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 30, 2006

Thanks a lot! Those Plasma Gunner photos were exactly the kind of pictures I was looking for.

My Heavy Weapons are actually all coming off the spare Imperial Vehicle accessory sprues. I looked them over, and I have 10 Lascannons and 10 Heavy Stubbers lying around. With a bit of work I could convert some into a load of nifty IG HW teams, order 3 boxes of Cadians off Ebay, get a HQ and that's 1500 point Guard army just waiting to be played (with the Russes from my Armoured Company).

Ah well, now I have some ideas about posing the crew I'll start work on that project as soon as I clear my work table.

Cheers
Addoran

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Forger of Civilization

· #11 · Jan 31, 2006

can we get a picture of that sitting gaurdsme from the back?

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Xethemez

· #12 · Jan 31, 2006 (Edited)

imcdonnell said:
Try the following:

For prone and how to do it ...
Click here for ... Prone Figures with Heavy Weapons

For other ideas ...
Click here for ... Heavy Weapons poses

Nice pics icmcdonnell - but on the set of legs that are close together, I tend to cut accross the knee and lower the leg that is sticking up - it's only a simple modification with a knife and it has great results. See my pics above.

Edit: Actualy, I will post some clearer pictures of the rear:
http://www.patgrinsell.f2s.com/dudesrear.jpg

And from the front:
http://www.patgrinsell.f2s.com/dudes.jpg

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imcdonnell

· #13 · Jan 31, 2006

More photos added to original links, including a step photo shoot of the cutting and positioning of the sitting gunner's legs.

Links listed here as well ...

Click here for ... Heavy Weapons poses

Regards

Ian

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Addoran

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 31, 2006

And while I'm here....I though might as well link you to my army list.

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