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Can an independent character attached to a unit that cannot perform a sweeping advance himself perform a sweeping advance at the end of the assault phase?
Say we've got Vulkan and a squad of terminators in an assault with an enemy unit. The enemies break, and the Terminators cannot do a sweeping advance, but Vulkan has artificer armour and counts as a separate unit in an assault, so could he hypothetically roll his own d6+I to check if he destroys the fleeing unit? He doesn't physically detach from the squad, since sweeping advances involve no actual movement. They simply trigger a consolidate move if successful.
The way I see it it breaks down two ways:
- Independent characters can only detach from a squad in the movement phase, and thus can't detach during the assault phase to perform a sweeping advance. They're still a part of the squad and form one unit when outside an assault, so they can't do a sweeping advance.
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- Independent characters count as a separate unit during the assault phase, and the sweeping advance takes place during the assault phase - in fact, it happens before you leave combat. Thus the character can do his own sweeping advance independently of the squad.
I can't tell which is right, and my opponent was planning to run Lysander with some Sternguard so this sounds like it might come up in a game. Has it been faq'd anywhere or previously addressed? Is it mentioned in the rulebook? The book does say that a character can't leave a squad in the shooting or assault phases, but then it's a question of whether or not doing a sweeping advance counts as leaving the unit. I'm genuinely muddled.
Say we've got Vulkan and a squad of terminators in an assault with an enemy unit. The enemies break, and the Terminators cannot do a sweeping advance, but Vulkan has artificer armour and counts as a separate unit in an assault, so could he hypothetically roll his own d6+I to check if he destroys the fleeing unit? He doesn't physically detach from the squad, since sweeping advances involve no actual movement. They simply trigger a consolidate move if successful.
The way I see it it breaks down two ways:
- Independent characters can only detach from a squad in the movement phase, and thus can't detach during the assault phase to perform a sweeping advance. They're still a part of the squad and form one unit when outside an assault, so they can't do a sweeping advance.
or
- Independent characters count as a separate unit during the assault phase, and the sweeping advance takes place during the assault phase - in fact, it happens before you leave combat. Thus the character can do his own sweeping advance independently of the squad.
I can't tell which is right, and my opponent was planning to run Lysander with some Sternguard so this sounds like it might come up in a game. Has it been faq'd anywhere or previously addressed? Is it mentioned in the rulebook? The book does say that a character can't leave a squad in the shooting or assault phases, but then it's a question of whether or not doing a sweeping advance counts as leaving the unit. I'm genuinely muddled.