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I heard some bad rumors about discontiouing the witch hunters army, and perhaps the entire inquisition.
Please advise.
Cause i spend about 300 euros last month for my army and i think of spending some more.
If thats the case, then why bother!
 

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I've been reading conflicting rumors. Some of the more trustworthy ones have been showing separate codexes, with Grey Knights leading the charge. I think the basis on the combined codex is from the data sheets in the rulebook combining them into "Forces of the Imperium." As nice as it would be to have everything in one dex, I fear to much will be overlooked and/or dropped. From what I've read and seen, don't count on the =][= dropping anytime soon, the though alone is heresy =P
 

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I've noticed that in Games Workshop the codexes of DH and WH are missing. WHATS GOING ON!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I dont like this at all!!!Not even a single anouncement from GW and i am panicked!!!!
 

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Calm down. The only rumors are that Inquisition forces are getting a new combined book or new separate books. It's common practice to remove the old books from sale before this happens. Be excited that your army is on track for an update.

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What he said. They went down awhile ago and were put back up last I checked, which was disheartening. Now that they're gone again, I guess that's a good sign.

So far for WH it's mostlybeen concept art that has been seen, but New Grey Knight Termie models have been seen along with supposedly some support/vehicles for both.

I have also heard that they are dropping them all together, but form the looks of it, tis nothing but heresy ;)
 

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So far for WH it's mostlybeen concept art that has been seen, but New Grey Knight Termie models have been seen along with supposedly some support/vehicles for both.)
Let's hope they're plastic, so when I lose against them (after their new codex in 2013) I can ***** that their army is super-cheese and cheap.
 

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Let's hope they're plastic, so when I lose against them (after their new codex in 2013) I can ***** that their army is super-cheese and cheap.
Yea they were plastic GKTs with like 5 different poses or something.
 

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Plastics sound good, other rumours such as GKs on hoverbikes don't. To be honest I don't really care to see our metal models replaced by other metal models. They're top biscuit aesthetically already. Hopefully if they are metal it's because they're releasing GK's with new, heavy weapons. :sinister:
 

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Seeing as the first box of sisters I bought off of ebay came in an achient second edition Sisters of Battle box, I can only assume they've had two releases and both are metal. Does it mean they look any less appealing? Hell no, but it does mean they look more unique amongst themselves. Plastic on the other hand would be fantastic, and I don't think GW would make them any less aesthetically pleasing because that's one thing everyone loves about them! If anything, plastic might make them look even better, perhaps even more feminine, or at least as feminie as power armor can get.
 

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I went out over the holidays an bulked up my force a bit- two boxes of sisters and an immolator. I did it in case I don't like the new models; I'll have enough of the ones I do like to keep going. I agree with ikbuh that they won't be less appealing, but they may be different enough that using the old and the new together won't work. I hope not; I'd like my army to include Sisters from both eras fighting side by side for variety sake, but still have it look like a cohesive army.

I'm a bit nervous about the idea of a combined dex, because it's likely that some stuff will get overlooked.

As for fears that the inquisition will disappear, don't worry- that won't happen. The idea of the Inquisition is fundamental to the universe- it was in the original rogue trader rules, and it predates even some of the specific space marine chapters. There are huge series of Black Library books dedicated to Inquisitors- there's a whole specialist game based on inquisitors, and then there's all the licensing agreements with the folks who make the Dark Heresy role playing game.

Plus, Inquisition armies meld seemlessly with the Imperial Guard and Space Marine armies, which are two of GW's biggest cash cows. They have too much to lose by eliminating us, although not enough to lose that they thought twice about ignoring us for 7+ years.
 

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I can only assume they've had two releases and both are metal.
Yes, they used to come in boxes of 6 and there are a few models that arn't around anymore (like the vet with the combi-weapon and the original banner carrier)

I too feel the need to blow a little cash on some of the models incase any are phased out
 

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Someone needs to get a giant stick covered in poo and beat the people who keep starting these rumours.
I swear, there seems to be people who decide its funny to shit stir and annoy everyone because they cant be held accountable online (not talking about here, but on other forums/sites)
You get trusted people mentioning new models for GK's, and then one person says "I went to GWS HQ and there was nothing" which obviously means that if they didn't see them they couldn't possibly exist (yes this is sarcasm at people who think this's stupidity).
Some peoples ego's need to be declared exterminatus.
 

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That's the beauty of rumors. You need to take all of them with a grain of salt. Some rumors are more reliable then others, and others are just someone starting one for the hell of it.

The fact that there are so many rumors is enough to get you thinking that they're coming though =P
 

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i enjoy reading both kinds of rumors, true and false. It just makes it that much more exciting when it becomes officially released by GW. As for the poo-stick, it does sound kinda fun, but ultimately would be unnecessary
 

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The WH and DH codices are still missing from the UK GW site but as far as I can tell all the models are still there.

It does not bode well, but it probably does mean something is brewing - though I highly doubt it is a sign they are being discontinued as otherwise some of the more.....obscure blisters would have disappeared as well.
 

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I personally would prefer separate codexes, with the SoB one going back towards the ecclesiarchy, perhaps eliminating, and certainly minimizing, inquisitorial influences and units (in spite of my very fun chimmy-mounted inquisitor lady, who nukes enemy psychers while her retinue provides otherwise-absent plasma goodness). OTOH, the thought of combining GKTs with battle sisters is...interesting, at least, since SoB are a little light on melee.
 

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In my experience SoB's and GK's work wonders in high point games. Two squads of Sisters in Rhinos, two squads of their GK brothers in LR's, the GM and GKT's deep strike while the Jumping Canoness and seraphim move in with the tanks. Wonderful stuff.

Both armies are brilliant at the short-range shooting (flamers and immolators ftw) and yep, GKs make for top meat shields while the sister rain down the extra firepower with their higher squad numbers.

As for your other point, I don't know why people fret about the idea of a combined codex. I'm sure that if they did that you would be able to play each section either autonomously or in a combination of your choice.
Best idea I heard and one which I fell upon quickly is that it will be HQ based. HQ's are necessary anyway so that's fine. If you take a Canoness, WH Inquisitor or Special Character of the SoBs and get access to the SoBs, take a Grand Master... ...well you get the point. In high-point games you can have two HQ's from different Ordos opening full access to both or have two from the same ordo as normal.

I'd imagine that allying between WH/DH/XH would be possible as before too, ridding of the need to have a HQ but also limiting the unit types allowed, same as we are now.

This should stop weird combinations such as Sisters with added land raiders but no GKs. And most of all, we should be able to play our lists exactly as they work now. Just with more options to test out if we're feeling experimental.
 

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What I worry about with a combined dex is that things will get left out. Even if they keep all of the entries that they currently have in both books, there's no way you're going to get the same amount of fluff and photos for your specific army. I want fluff for all six of the Sisters Orders militant. I want to keep the existing special characters but add in a couple new ones: the current dex only has two- Saint Celestine and Inquisitor Karamazov. Hell, even the second ed. dex had more- Saint Praxedes, Helena the Virtuous, Redemptor Kyrinov, Uriah Jacobus and Cardinal Armandus Helfire. You think they're going to be able to revive any of the awesome Ecclesiarchy stuff when they've got to cram to other armies into the same book?

If we go with a combined dex, you'll be lucky to get two special character per Ordo, which would be a total of six (this is if they include the Ordo Xenos). And speaking of the Ordo Xenos, these guys have never had their own dex. While Witch Hunters and Daemon Hunters will be fortunate enough to have previous editions to draw on in order to get the wonderful histories and backstories that make 40K fun to play, the poor Ordo Xenos players will have no such luck, and all the background information they're ever going to get will be what little GW can provide in a book where two other armies are vying for available space.

What about artwork? Two thirds of the images in a combined dex are going to be pictures that I just don't feel like looking at.

The biggest hit? Wargear. Do you really think that all the unique pieces of wargear are going to survive a combined dex? This one's a real shame, because to a certain extent, an Inquisitor's wargear helps define his or her personality. A combined dex will minimize the differences between Inquisitors of the various Ordos, rather than expand upon them. The only difference will be what selections from the army list you're allowed to include. Hello Witch Hunter Inquisitors in terminator armour just because every other type of Inquisitor can wear it, despite the fact that it's totally inappropriate for the task of hunting cultists, heretics and witches. What about the single list of henchmen from which all Inquisitors will build retinues, ensuring that any henchman whose role is specific to one particular order gets cut from the list? What about the common pool of psychic abilities, which will further to contribute to the homogenization of the various Ordos?

Gone will be the dichotomy between radical and puritan inquisitors, because you just can't provide enough options for a good radical build and a good puritan build for each of three armies in a single book. It just isn't possible.

Now don't get me wrong, if they go the combined dex route, I'm sure it will be adequate. It will also have the positive impact of updating two armies and creating a third in one fell swoop. But something will be lost, even if it's just artwork and fluff, and there's no way around it. Perhaps the worst part of all of this? As long as the armies from the combined dex have a chance to win a tournament, no one will even care about what's been lost.
 
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