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Ok, i had a thought, its theoreticly never going to happen, with the fleets, the fortress, and if Maccarage can stop one then Terra can, but..

lets say the nids land on terra, breech the palace and...

EAT THE EMPEROR!!!!!!

with the genetic assimilation the nids have, and the emperors power, what would become of the nids? could they handle it? would the emperors immortal soul battle within the hive mind, a titanic battle of wills?

Speculate my dead children............
 

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I spose it realy depends on wether the fulse emperors soul is still around in the first place.
Providing its not just some big lie spread to keep the imperium from falling to the glory of chaos then the nids would have a good battle on there hands.
Imo the emperor is ether gone for good or hes a heck of alot more powerfull than anyone realises.
I could easaly see this ending in an epic battle cripling nids but leaving the emperor weak and then chaos or orks being sneaky and trying to score a win for themselves when the two superpowers are down.
 

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on terra there are 4 imperator titans guarding the palace, from the inside. yeah, nids totally got the edge.

I'd say they'd absorb his body, and make better use of whatnot, and he'd become that whole "star Child" thing and kill all chaos, control the nids, and makes the crons oil themselves.
 

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Well, assuming the Emperor's soul lost the mental battle against the Hive Mind, I imagine the Hive Mind would bond itself to the Emperor's body, giving itself a physical manifestation and making an uber-tyrant of super doom. Though if the Emperor managed to reincarnate himself somewhere, he might be able to put a stop to it.
 

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The presence of a Nid fleet blots out the powers of the warp - that's all the Chaos gods and everything else, including the Astronomicon, etc. etc., all blotted out by the psychic presence of one 'Nid hive fleet.

The fluff, as far as I can tell, implies that nothing can or will stand up to the 'Nids attacking at full strength, something they haven't even come a fraction of a percentage close to doing.

So I think if they ever did barrel up to full magnitude, the galaxy would fall like leaves in Autumn ... inevitably, inexorably.

After that? Well, sure would be somethin' funny if the Emperor's soul were so powerful that he could invade and control the Hive Mind, or even "become" the Hive Mind, and cleanse the galaxy at the helm of an unstoppable army bent to his every whim. Something tells me, though, that despite all his power, he'd be utterly enveloped by the psychic presence of a hive fleet large enough to take Terra itself.

The other thing is that the 'Nids aren't known for soul eating. If the warp is utterly blocked out, how do souls even get there (in the fluff, that's what happens, right?)? Would the Emperor simply cease to exist, his soul left with nowhere to go, his body devoured?
 

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Hey guys do not forget the Tyranid are feasting on orc planets as we speak, and latest reports show that there bigger then ever. After they devour the rest of the orc they will move on more beastily then ever!!!!!!!:drinking:
 

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I have a hypothesis that when people die when the warp is engulfed in the Hive Mind, they are actually absorbed into it, becoming yet one more of the countless cacophony of hungering minds, or something like that. I think if the Emperor were devoured by Nids'... well lets just say I don't forsee the Nids' losing a fight anytime soon (and not just in this galaxy)
 

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The other thing is that the 'Nids aren't known for soul eating. If the warp is utterly blocked out, how do souls even get there (in the fluff, that's what happens, right?)?
No, Tyranids don’t eat souls, only physical matter. The Hive Mind doesn’t block the warp in the same way Necron Pariahs and Pylons do, by solidifying the interdimensional barrier and cutting off all connections to the ethereal dimension; rather, the Hive Mind simply occupies all the mental wavelengths of the warp with incessant Nid chatter, like a static signal on all channels, preventing others from utilising the warpstreams for communication and as power source.

Whether the Hive Mind is a stronger psyker than the Emperor can be debated, though, as the Emperor is without a doubt the most powerful psychic entity native to our galaxy. The Illuminati believe that should the Emperor die and His disembodied soul become the Star Child, He would be the most powerful warp god ever to exist. Not only is He incorruptible, He also protects those Soul Bound to Him, such as astropaths and Grey Knights, from the depredations of Chaos.

The Hive Mind, however, does not show the same resilience towards Chaos. It has been known for Tyranids to be corrupted; the Iron Warriors keep an enslaved Hive Ship as a transport vessel, and Genestealers sometimes dedicate themselves to Chaos to obtain additional psychic abilities. The Hive Mind is also rumoured to have been breached by other psykers, such as the Ultramarine Librarian Tigurius, in which case it would hardly be a match for the Emperor.

with the genetic assimilation the nids have, and the emperors power, what would become of the nids? could they handle it? would the emperors immortal soul battle within the hive mind, a titanic battle of wills?
If the Tyranids were to eat the Emperor’s body, they wouldn’t care much about the Emperor’s soul at all; their primary concern would be to absorb and assimilate His DNA. It is thought that Space Marine genes have already been incorporated into certain Tyranid strains, such as the Tyrant Guard, and Space Marines are but pale imitations of their Primarchs, who are again lesser clones of the Emperor Himself; with access to His pure undiluted genes, the Tyranids would become unstoppable, practically immortal, likely with vastly enhanced psychic capabilities, powerful beyond imagining.

However, I think this is unlikely to happen; not only because the Emperor Himself is such a powerful psyker and would resist the violations of the Hive Mind as He has those of Chaos, but also because humanity would never allow the Tyranids to breach the Imperial Palace. More important than any number of Titans, the Inquisition has access to an untold number of Untouchables, psychic blanks who function similarly to Necron Pariahs by entirely blocking the warp; their presence would disrupt the Hive Mind’s control and make the Tyranids easy to fight; their strength lie in overwhelming numbers and superb coordination, remove one and they inevitably falter. If humanity were to make a last stand against the Tyranids, they would be sure to use this very powerful advantage and simply block out the Hive Mind.

It’s an amusing thought experiment, though. ;)

~Greph.
 

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I would say nothing much, beyond the Imperium not having an Emperor. After assimilating Ork and Space Marine genetic material I don't think they would find anything special in the Emperor's vegetative body (note lack of regeneration here). The Emperor's psychic abilities are what make him powerful, as others have pointed out, and there are logical limits to how 'good' DNA can get.

As for Hive Mind vs. Emperor's Brain, I doubt there will be a fair fight. The Imperium would be throwing every last anti-psyker weapon into the fray. I think it more likely that the Chaos gods would take on the Hive Mind personally before that happened--you can't corrupt a dead galaxy, after all. Besides, Abbaddon wants the Emperor for himself!
 

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It's difficult to measure the Hive Mind's true psychic strength because no one knows exactly what it is. The most plausible theory, in my opinion, is that the Hive Mind is the warp manifestation of the entire Tyranid race. Or, more specifically, their predatory instincts. The Tyranids are united as a race by a single overriding desire: to feed on anything and everything that they come across. This pure and primal instinct then coalesced in the Warp to form the gestalt consciousness that is the Hive Mind. The interesting thing about such gestalt entities in the 40K universe is that they are almost universally stronger than any other psychic force in existence. There are only three such entities that we know of at the moment: the Power of the Waaagh!, the Hive Mind, and the four Ruinous Powers of Chaos. Essentially what the Emperor would be pitting Himself against is the psychic might of an entire race.

Of course, one could also argue that the Emperor exists only in the Warp now and has become a gestalt entity Himself due to the power of the Imperium's faith, in which case He would very much be a match for the Hive Mind on the etheric level, though on the physical level it will fall to the mortal armies of mankind to defend His body from the Tyranid swarms.
 

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This is what would happen... Emperor would totally become something else, he would follow the footsteps of Sarah Kerrigan! 8X8X ohh.. Starcraft2 when are you coming out !

 

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The emporer is a fool how great could he be to be beaten by his offspring. Then like a coward he asked to be kept alive forever..... coward is even scared of death.

P.S. Fulgrim has the worse existance of all beings traped forever
 

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.......anyway, as to what the rabbit said, definatly heres the major advantage of the HiveMind. Everyone knows where the emporers body is, but no one knows the location of the hivemind, if there even is one specific body of the hivemind. but i have to say, this whol idea that tyranids are limitless is dont think is quite true, i think they definatly have thier limits, but a massive numerical advantage over other races. I'm thinking that the Emporer could fight off the hivemind for a time, maybe not forever though. Interesting idea with the abosrbition of the emporers dna, i don't think the nids would become inherently pychic, but they would definatly be getting a genetic overboost, the emporers dna having the ability to give spawn to the primarchs, plus all those star children wandering around.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT SCARYCROW? THE EMPORER IS ON THAT GOLDEN FRAKKIN THRONE PROTECTIN YOUR SORRY ARSE FROM A MILLION DIFFERNT WARPSPAWNS TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE GOLDEN THRONE! I DON'T SEE YOU MAKING THE ULTIMATE SACRFICE FOR EARTH BUDDY! lol
 

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I would soooo join slaanesh or nurgle lol. Fighting for a galaxy you never get to enjoy fighting for a coward who is scared to die, just so not worth it. Atleast the choas know how to live lol
 

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....why are you so hard edge on this "emporer is a coward thing"? There was definatly a span of time where the emporer led from the front of the great crusade, and even a moment where he put his life in danger and Horus had to save him from a frakkin massive ork warboss (although i can't recall where i read this, or heard it, so take it lightly) but regardless, without the emporer living a continuing existence of tortured immortality, demons would spill from the opened webway on the golden throne. And honestly...without humanity, you'd really never get the chance to serve chaos, cause without parents! there wouldn't be you! ( and i'm pretty sure chaos is an advocate of killing everyone, including parents)
 

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Ok first of all stop spelling Emporer - it's EMPEROR.

Secondly, you're wrong Albino - Chaos does not advocate the killings of people on a grand scale, they are infinitively more tolerant than the Imperium in that Chaos welcome all to it's loving embrace. Not to mention the fact that Chaos wishes everyone to worship it, not die. If everyone was dead, the four gods would have no power.
 

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wha-wha-wha! Chaos NOT wanting to kill and debase the entire universe? Where do you draw this conclusion? I hold the solid belief that chaos KNOWS that if it were to win, it would be self destructive. But I'm also pretty sure they don't care, because you know, they're chaotic lol. Perhaps this is why Khorne advocates the death of even his own warriors, and tzneetch encourages backstabbing amongst his people, and nurgle slowly kills his own people, and slaneesh...well slaneesh is that new god on the block, still learnin' the ropes i spose. Just kidding, slaneesh is all about his followers killing themselves too for the pleasure, or at least dividing there interests into thier own devices, never really uniting them.

but then again, i could be totally and completely wrong, but then, SO COULD YOU!
 

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One thing I do have to say, is that if the Tyranids eat all humans in the process of getting to the Emperor, they'll be worse off. They'll start messaging each other across the synaptic waves in ALL CAPS OCCASIONALLY, dissing each others' beleifs on the fluff of that last planet they just ate, and other terrible, low-brow things. Plus, their grammar will go straight down the tubes.

You are what you eat, after all ...
 

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IF Terra was invaded by Nids i seriously doubt they could seeming every chapter in the sector and close to the sector would arrive there before the nids not to mention Adeptus mechanicus would unleash its full power huge amounts of titan legions and Skittarrii all of the sectors ships would be recalled.. lets put it this way there is NO way for Nids to get to terra.

IF they did eat the body of The most holy God-Emperor He would be Reborn as the Star child and would probably Incinerate the damn Nids all over the galaxy.

oh and dont forget such a Huge powerful psyker energy(from the Synapse) would awaken the Void dragon then everyone is up **** creek without a paddle.

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The emperor was never defeated. he let his son hurt him because he didnt believe that he was completely consumed by chaos. and Horus Flayed a Custode and the Emperor killed Horus in a LAnce of Pure White Energy*Lance strike on crack* and Burned Horus's from Existance.
 

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One thing I do have to say, is that if the Tyranids eat all humans in the process of getting to the Emperor, they'll be worse off. They'll start messaging each other across the synaptic waves in ALL CAPS OCCASIONALLY, dissing each others' beleifs on the fluff of that last planet they just ate, and other terrible, low-brow things. Plus, their grammar will go straight down the tubes.

You are what you eat, after all ...
Agree! And they'll start waging wars among themselves because they'll start worshipping different religions :X
 
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