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The question is, if you are looking at buying a grey knight army are you best waiting till the new models/codex?
Considering all the models are currently metal and that they would probably be coming out with much cheaper plastics, I would have to say yes.
 

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Generally, the quality improves with each iteration as well. There have, of coarse, been some notable exceptions (daemonettes of slaanesh). Personally, I love the look of the Grey Knight terminators, but I've heard that they aren't the same scale as new ones and look tiny in comparison. If they could keep the same design but just make them bigger and a bit more posable, I'd love to get my hands on some. But if they change the design, I'll be kicking myself for not buying the metal ones when I had the chance, just like I ended up doing with the daemonettes.

It would be nice if the kept the old ones available online for about two weeks after the release of a new range so that people could choose whether to buy the old or the new having seen both.
 

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I have just got back into the hobby since 4th edition and thought I'd pick up DH. Considering this news and the fact that their current codex is horrendously out of date I may reconsider my actions.

I think I'll pick up a guard army so when Inquisitors are re-released I can hopefully add these as an addition to my force. In the mean time by the odd units when I fancy. Spending £xxx on metal grey knights only to find 7 months after I finish painting them to find they are obsolete.

Looking forward to the new release though. They really need it.

Plastic grey knights would be amazing. Lets hope for plastic storm troopers as well.
 

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Yes, you must wait even DH/WH has been released or, minimum, rumoured. The imperial guard is a good choice for use the minis in both armies
 

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Generally, the quality improves with each iteration as well. There have, of coarse, been some notable exceptions (daemonettes of slaanesh). Personally, I love the look of the Grey Knight terminators, but I've heard that they aren't the same scale as new ones and look tiny in comparison. If they could keep the same design but just make them bigger and a bit more posable, I'd love to get my hands on some. But if they change the design, I'll be kicking myself for not buying the metal ones when I had the chance, just like I ended up doing with the daemonettes.

It would be nice if the kept the old ones available online for about two weeks after the release of a new range so that people could choose whether to buy the old or the new having seen both.
The size difference between a new termy and a GKT isn't that big. GKT were already bigger than old terminators so you don't notice unless you put new termies and GKT side by size and look closely.
 

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The size difference between a new termy and a GKT isn't that big. GKT were already bigger than old terminators so you don't notice unless you put new termies and GKT side by size and look closely.
Well if you field a TH/SS Termie that you converted to GKT from a new termie model you´ll see the difference.. :)!

But I´d really love new plastic releases, they are so much easier to convert, and cool conversions, with the in my eyes coolest models in the 40k universe! Gonna be pretty sweet...

And regarding buying a bigger stock of the old models before the new come out just to be sure you have the prettier ones, can you really have too much :)?!
 

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I'm hoping that there will be more options for Radical Inquisitors . My Radical DH Inquisitor being able to pack a daemon weapon and actually have FA choices would be very nice.
 

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Spending £xxx on metal grey knights only to find 7 months after I finish painting them to find they are obsolete.
Even if they make new kickass plastic mulitpart kits of grey knights, the current ones are so pure awesome, they'll never be obsolete. so purchase safely, some of the finest miniatures created by citadel...
 

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That is if they keep the induction/allies rules. We shall see.
As I am aware they are not keeping the allies rules as they want to keep everything in the WH/DH codexes completely in the respective book(s) so that you do not have to buy several codexes to use your army.
The Inquisition will focus primarily on the Grey Knights and Sisters of Battle respectively which to the large part form the chambers militant of the Inquisition anyway as the Spacemarines and Imperial Guard already have their own fluff.

As for inducted troops, there is an idea for having something more akin to Imperial Guard veterans which can be upgraded to something more akin to Inquisitorial Stormtroops by giving them carapace armour. The main issue that needed to be addressed here was as the idea of having masses of AP3 death as troops, its just too much. This is something that the developers are still working on.

Personally the large majority of people that use Inducted allies in their Witch Hunters and Daemon Hunters armies most likely have enough Imperial Guard and Spacemarines that they wil be able to have them as a second army if they do not already do so. The fact that plastic Grey Knights and Sisters of Battle are going to be released means that filling the spaces that the inducted allies once had will not be that difficult or expensive.

JvK B)
 

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Since there are only around 3000 GKs in the whole universe, I doubt that the allies will fall away, I just hope they will be kept simple and in the codex (as mentioned in the post up).
Problem with the AP3 is just the following, there is a strong need of getting low AP weapons to the troops or other effective means of getting rid of tanks and such.. even though fluff wise the GKs are more CC specialists, and basically don´t show up without ISTs. (which would handle the long ranged fire).

Only way i could see that GKs fill the gap of inducted allies is if they use their trainees as a long range force, since theyr CC training isn´t complete or something.
 

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I think the simple solution that works for us would be to add the veterans to our troops section as inquisitional conscripts only 6 points per guy while changing some of the options. Allow us to by them in groups of 5-10, 2 weapons instead of 4 with only one of them being heavy, and if they buy the armor upgrade instead of being grenadiers they become inquisitional storm troopers. The fluff would be that the inquisition has its own troops (stormtroopers), and the ability to commender the best troops in a system to fill in for what ever need they want. Then you could also allow us a few other borrowed choices (conditionally with the inclusion of an inquisitor): leman russ battle tank, a few sentinel choices, a land speeder, and maybe a whirlwind (the last two may be conditional with the inclusion of deathwatch).

That would make our heavy support choices tough, with land raiders, russes, dreadnoughts, exorcists, and whirlwinds. Our fast attack still limited with dominions, landspeeders and sentinels. and Very very full elite section which is how most armies are starting to force choices these days...Seems like this could be a complete list and if we have less special characters than other armies then we still wont have as many choices as things like space marines and imperial guard.
 

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As far as new models go, we can only hope the new ones are as good, because once they get here, the old ones won't be available anymore. I am hopeful; new models usually are as good or better than the originals. Still though, I'll make sure I have everything I need before it becomes unavailable, just in case the new models don't appeal to me. And if they do appeal to me, I guess my army will end up being 6k points instead of 3k. Oh damn.

As for inducted guard and allied space marines and such, I think its great for our armies to have those options, but I myself am somewhat of a purist; if I wanted to play guard, I'd play guard. If I wanted to play space marines, I'd play space marines. But I don't; I want to play Witch Hunters.

Like I said, it's good for our armies to have the ally options, even if I choose not to use them; my way isn't the only way, nor should it be. At the same time, I think GW should make it possible for purists like me to play the way we like to; if I want to play an all grey knight army or an all sisters army, it should be possible to do so. Because honestly, if I have to play marines or guard with my witch hunters in order to make them viable, I'd rather just play Dark Eldar or nids, because although I love Witch Hunters, and to a lesser extent, Daemon Hunters, I don't really like Marines and Imperial Guard.
 

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I completely agree with IofRaw on the play as a purist part, but I think for the sake of balancing our army you have to take out the we can ally with others, and just include what we can use of theirs. The means that our list wont have to be limited so that it fill the designed weakness of other imperial armies. And allows are list to be more play tested before its release because there is no way to play test our guys with every allied list you could come up with some broken. I like the one limited codex and hope go that route, but include some conscripted units from other armies to fit the fluff.
 

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My theory is, as they've pulled the SOB boxed set off the website, and replaced it with a simple sisters squad (no special weapons) they're going to release them with the battles book (due mid this year?) as a optional extra (taking SOB with your army)
I don't believe they're going to combine codex's as that would reduce sales. I would believe they're going to re-do grey knights in plastic (look at the SW plastic sprues for quality and detail) - It's also cheaper to do plastic, and new releases = sales.
I'd imagine they're dumping the old codex's as they're not all that compatible with their current game (allied rules confuses alot of people, and inquisitors and mystics annoys alot of people, as do the old chimera/land raider/storm shield etc)
Besides, if they are doing plastic stormtroopers (rumor as old as the hills, but there's a greenstuff one out there, and it's due - maybe with the battles book) it'd make sense to re-do SOB (or DH)
They also want more females for some international sales reason (see female commisar in america)
Dreams of plastic SOB sprues and how all other armies i own would be dropped immediately...
 

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I think you are close to hitting the nail on the head. They will almost certainly abandon the current cross-codex style of rules, as it completely opposes their current model for codex design - Clean and self contained (if only they would stop separating the points valued entries at the back of the book from the actual ability-description entries in the middle of the book).

I suspect they will emulate ally rules, simply by including unit options in the codex that have either a more Space Marine type flavour, or an Imperial Guard type flavour. Keep in mind that todays codeces have at least double the number of unit entries than we currently see in our long-since outdated codex.

It is the revenue angle that will keep them from combining the Inquisition into a single codex... (unfortunately)
 

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@Badblade: I would love if they would have the allies directly in the book, make it much easier.
Maybe have their own SMs ala Exorcists or regular SMs that they take with them. Exorcists - Lexicanum
Just make sure the pure DHs get enought Anti-Tank.

And of course update the whole wording so no more slain outright and such things..

On another note, weren't the rumors that those 5 new poses for the GKTs come out with the new mission book?
 
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