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So apparently the 'nids are completely unstoppable, and its only a matter of time before the universe is theirs. But do you think they could actually take it? I mean, the 40K universe has supernatural beings like the chaos gods, the avatars, the c'tan. Not to mention an endless supply of demons from the warp. So do you think the nids would actually be able to take the 40K universe?
 

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well the 40k universe is basically a orgy of battle and death, every time the races are trying to crush each other for power to rule so basically tyranids are one of them and so have EQUAL chances along with all armies to take controll of the universe..
and by the way, can a carnflex beat a bloodthirster?
 

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Although I have read that the 'nids will evntually overrun the galaxy, there is an Eldar prophecy that tells of the Rhana Dhandra, which is discribed as the final battle, between chaos and the mortal universe.
 

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I remeber to have read somewhere that the tyranids already have consumed 12% of all planets of the entire universe!
I'm not sure if that is official fluff though.

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yeah but get them to try taking terra or cadia or mars or something like that. they cant do it. this was shown at the batte of macragee (spelling) they didnt take that.

try fighting every loyal marine chapter and imperial regiment this is what would likely be defending terra and the eldar would help.

then there will be a good fight that the tyranids probably wont survive.
 

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The question isn't how well they did at Macragge (sp?) but how well they could recover from it. How long does it take to create a Space Marine? Have the Ultramarines recouped their losses from that battle by the time Hive Fleet Kracken invaded their territory? I'd bet that they Tyrannids have, and more besides. All the other races can change tactics to fight the Tyranids, but how many can create new technology to fight it? The human and eldar haven't changed in ages (all the "new" tech is really re-discovered old tech). The Tau probably could, but could they do it fast enough?

The Tyranids have the advantage that 90%+ (probably closer to 99%) of their population can fight. Given equal numbers with the other races, the Tyranids can bring more of their population to war. If they have superior population numbers...

But, to answer the question "Will the Tyranids every rule/destroy the Universe?", the answer is...not if GW has anything to say about it. They wouldn't be able to sell any models! :D
 

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yeah i agree that gw wouldnt get tyranids to destroy the universe because they couldnt sell 40k anymore.

but what i was saying is its not just

tyranids vs marines

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tyranids vs marines, guard, eldar, tau

now come on 4 on 1. i dont think even nids could fight 4 on 1 but it would be cool to see it happen.
 

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Well, by that logic the Imperium stands no chance either: It's Marines, Guard and Sororitas vs Eldar, Orks, Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Necrons, Chaos and Tau: 3 vs 7.

They all fight each other, not everyone against tyranids. It's also very questionable if they would ever ally against tyranids (Sororitas fighting together with chaos against someone else? Never!).

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no obviousily sob wouldnt ally with choas.

also i was thinking that eldar are sought of allies to the imperium and it has been put in official fluff of eldar helping the imperium. i also think that tau might help the imperium because tyranids are one of there worst enemies. so the tyranids forces would be hard pressed to cover the whole universe.

and thanks you have reminded me that it isnt

tyranids vs marines, guard, eldar, tau

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tyranids vs marines, guard, eldar, tau, sob, deamonhunters, assasins
 

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tyranids vs marines, guard, eldar, tau, sob, deamonhunters, assasins
...vs Chaos Space Marines vs Rebel IG vs Eldar Craftworlds who want to do their own thing vs Dark Eldar vs Necron vs RaceX vs blah blah blah....

Not to mention I disagree with you on Tau allying with Humans. They are both so stuck on being the superior being that it would never happen until it was too late. Eldar MAY help, but even then it would be on a case by case basis and they may fight over other stuff.

Its a tough tough Universe.
 

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wat about necrons, there pretty tough and numerous and i think they could overthrow most of the galaxy before the tyranids do.

couldn't we all just drop bombs on tyranid home planets from space? surely that would solve the problem
 

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Tyranids don't have any home planets.

They arrive at a world, devour anything (they find biomass even after an exterminatus, they don't care if it's alive, dead or even ashes), and then move their chitinous butts to the next planet.

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what the eldar would never try to come together cuz they arent together as is. That is why the craftworlds are formed and they are out floating away and dyin. And the prophecy is that the eldar will die before the nids can come to beat them because the chaos overrun the ulthwe and the rest of the craftworlds before they go to the human planets.
 

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I wouldn't say there were any alliances at all (minus the imperium). It's

Imperium vs Tau vs Eldar vs D. Eldar vs Orks vs Necrons vs Tyranids vs Chaos

I've read that the tyranids travelled from other galaxies that they're already consumed entirely. Not to mention that the hivemind is more than likely a better psyker than the emperor ever was.

And I've also read that its a matter of time before the entire galaxy is consumed by the tyranids, but I just didnt know if it was possible since there is almost an endless supply of daemons spewing forth from the EoT
 

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see the only thing is although it is a ffa the imperium and space marines would ally and the tau and necrons might ally but nids wouldnt get the whole universe because the chaos although fighting humans have too many people now that the eot has been unleashed fullymi think the only army that could stand a chance in savin the universe would be chaos but afta that they would be sooo weak that the imperium would crush them and then after that all the legions would break up into their own factions and the imperium would colapse on itself.
 

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The orks might be able to do a fair job. I mean, they've survived for how long. They must be good for something. ;)
 

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to clear this up.

nids...dont ally, period

necrons....also dont ally period, only fight against whom they need to die. even if this means fighting along side another race, but not allying. nobody knows when, where, or why they will ally with, only necrons knwo that!

eldar...ally with whom ever bebifits them the most(EoT for example, it was beneificl for them to ally with FoO agaisnt the dark eldar so they did) but there are eceptions(nids, DE...)

Imperium...ally with Daemonhunters and eldar(Imp and eldar have a respect for each toher, they save each other from time to time)

Tau...they do there own thang until they are out of options, when this comes i say they ally with imperium and whomever they are with

choas will not ally with anybody

orks...wont ally period.


so there arent that many alliances its pretty much everyone for them selves except for a few joints to fend off the rest
 

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The question in my mind is how many nids are there? For all we know the whole universe apart from the one galaxy 40k is based in could be just one huge nid desolation. How many nids can all the races in the galaxy hope to fight and still surive? A couple of billion? For all we know the first few hive fleets could just be scouting parties. And the emperor knows the imperium had a hard enough time stopping them(the ultramarines are just getting over it while other chapter i.e the Sycthes of the Emperor are effectivily wiped out)It is not beyond possibility that there are several hive fleets sitting outside the galaxy several times the size of Kraken or the others just waiting to strike.
 

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Hive fleet bethmoth (attacked macrrage) was a small scouting fleet of tyranids. But that small fleet consited of several thousand drop pods and small ships and dozens of large long ships. And of course a hive ship or two. Not only that but it is unknown where the nids come from. They just appear from a section of the galaxy. The ultramarines lost about 100-200 marines in that battle and the number of gaurdsmen lost was astounding. Then a small splinter fleet of bethmoth landed on a nearby planet and then they lost about 50.

The tyrannids have numbers on their side. The have trillions of bugs whereever they come from. Stuff bigger that a hive ship. Somthing has to grow it.
 
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