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If I'm not supposed to discuss GW pricing here, just delete this thread, and I do apologise. That's the way it was on their official forums, but I assume that I'm allowed to discuss it here.
Anyway, I'm looking at getting into Fantasy with some friends (we play 40k), and was looking at the BfSP box. In Australia, $85AUD.
Now, it seems to have a LOT of models in there. Can someone please tell me, are the models snap-together ones like the Battle for Macragge box-set supposedly are? (only speaking from what I've heard, never looked). Or are they the same models you'd get if you bought the components separately?
Because if it's the latter, does that then mean that the box-set is INCREDIBLE value? Because I looked at some prices, and 10 Goblins Spider Riders on their own cost $50. The whole box set is only $85, and has LOTS more than that. I haven't worked it out exactly, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was 300-400 bucks worth of stuff in there.
I'm used to army-boxes in 40k usually saving you half to one box-worth of value. (So in Australia, where most boxes are $50, you pay $150 for something generally worth $175 - $200 if the bits were bought separately). (That's 40k stuff). Am I missing some important point, or is the BfSP box just crazy-good value?
The starter set of good value yes, they make it thet way to get people into the hobby.
The models are snap together in the way that glue is not necessary, everything in the box can be put together, and stays together well, without glue.
The modles are all one soild piece of plastic (except the troll and and cannon and a few other things) but the quality of the scuplts is much better than the BFM boxed set. Once you get them painted you wont be able to tell the difference bettwen the BFSP minis and the individual regiment boxes.
The Skull Pass set is very good value, especially if you split the cost with a friend and take one army each.
Of course it's even better value if you want to play Chaos Dwarves, as you can use every model in the box, apart from the Troll.
The models are supposedly snap-together, but in reality several will require glue. The spider riders, the grudge ponty, the ork idol to name a few.
That said, it is true that the sculpts are very good, even considering how simplistic the models are. They look great even after my 10-year old son painted them. It's probably the single best value GW offers. If anybody you game with has an interest in orcs-n-goglins or dwarfs, it's a steal. We calculated that the gobln army itself is worth more than 700 pts without any character upgrades.
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Yes it represents fantastic value for money. Plus you also get the full set of WHFB rules with the rulebook! :w00t:
I agree it's a fantastic set. It's fantastic value even if it just had, say the Goblins (because there are rather a lot of them after all), but you don't just get goblins! There's dwarfs and a rulebook too! Its the best value set GW have produced in a long time.
The one thing that I don't like about it is the introductory booklet that is suposed to teach new players the game because it ignores key aspects of the rules such as the rank bonus in combat resolution. Other than that little gripe with one little thing that you get in the box, I think everything else about it is brilliant. Just learn from the rulebook and not the booklet :yes:
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Its a brilliant set, nice and easy to assemble and paint with two small armies and all the rules in a nice compact format. One of the best value boxes GW has ever done.
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Like everyone else has said, BfSP is a great deal.
I just bought the box myself, and I'm pretty amazed. Over 100 minis, VERY easy to put together, and a mini-rulebook (it has all the rules, but it has all the fluff taken out).
It costs the same as a rulebook, too, so as long as you don't mind not having fluff in the rulebook, you're basically getting 100+ models free.
Edit: And you're saving lots of money on models, too.
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Thanks to everyone that has replied to this thread. You've been very helpful. I've let my mate know, the one who was going to play either Orcs & Gobbos, or Dwarves, so now he'll already have the start of his 2nd army