Take CSM as your main army with a chaos lord/sorcerer or named nurgle HQ to take plague marines as a troops. Take a ally daemon army Ku'gath plaguefather with Nurglings due to ku'gath benefits from nurglings because he gains a wound for each one near him with 7 wounds 3 nurglings say hello to a model that simply does not die unless they waste every shot on him also due to he has the lord of plague rule he can take a daemon prince of nurgle as a heavy support hope that clears up your choice

Then you have 2 elite's hard to kill objective holds as troops with impossible to kill HQ's and a tough flyer.
The thing also with ku'gath there is no model of him yet so you should be able to convert a model that is out to make him read his fluff also it is intresting and gives a idea of how he looks.


the FW greater great unclean one is a Apocalypse daemon lord not a normal great unclean one

 

I agree about the GW GUO model. Here are a few alternatives

puppetswar.eu - Fat Plague Demon

The next two are very large models
Greater Plaguebringer
Plague Giant

Forge World - NURGLE DAEMON PRINCE AND HERALD

Big Fat Uncle - Monster 28FM0016

 

I'd like to keep the model legal for tournaments, so that rules out the 3rd party models, all of which look a lot better than GW's GUO too. I believe they are both mounted on the same size base, is that correct at least? The forge world daemon prince might be a good stand in for a GUO too. It looks bulkier than the GW daemon prince.

 

Afraid I can't help with a size comparison, though I'd be surprised if Google didn't throw up something helpful (do an image search for what you want and 'size comparison').

But, if you want to be legal for GW tournaments, then you're not allowed to use a DP as a Greater Daemon because it would be proxying. In this case, I'm inclined to agree that it probably would be confusing for your opponent.

 

Maybe I'll just "convert" the model into a GUO then. I wonder how much it needs to be altered to be considered a conversion. Or, if forge world rules become acceptable for standard tournament play I could use the rules for the Forge World Daemon Prince model. At two more toughness than a standard daemon prince he's a pretty hard HQ to lead the army.

 

You can use the FW Papa Nurgle as a stock-standard GUO with 0 problems.

His size is definitely larger than a DP - both the metal Nurgle one & the regular plastic one, but he's not that much bigger overall. (at most about a 35- 40% size increase.)
The FW one is much bulkier rather than obscenely taller as is the case with the other FW Greaters.

 

I think its a bit more than 40%. See the image I found in this thread: MiniWarGaming Wargaming Forum • View topic - forgeworld great unclean one. You'll have to scroll down a bit.

Surprisingly I've had a really hard time finding an image that has the GW nurgle daemon prince and the GUO side by side. But its easy enough to find either model standing next to a chaos space marine or plaguebearer. The daemon prince of nurgle may even be a bit taller than the GUO. Personally, I fail to see how using the prince as a GUO (either forge world or GW) could be considered a proxy. It is a large model, obviously nurgle, about the right size body and base and a GW product. Its not like I plan to use a carnifex. If I were to use both a daemon prince of nurgle and a GUO I could see how there could be confusion, but if I only use the one model, and explain its purpose before a game, (and my aversion to the GW GUO) it should be fairly obvious especially what it is. This could depend on the tournament organizer as well so I am aware my reasoning isn't perfect.

 

Personally, I fail to see how using the prince as a GUO (either forge world or GW) could be considered a proxy. It is a large model, obviously nurgle, about the right size body and base and a GW product. Its not like I plan to use a carnifex.

It seems perfectly clear to me that it's proxying (using one unconverted model to count as another). Whether it's confusing or should be allowed is another issue.

It will generally be down to your opponent/tournament organiser, so it's up to you whether to take that risk, but the GW Warriors' Code forbids all proxying and that's something to be aware of if you want to be 'tournament legal'. (It doesn't, however, say how much conversion is needed to turn a proxy into a conversion... Though all conversions need clearance, which covers their backs I guess.)

Personally, I wouldn't mind, though I think it would actually be preferable to use a Carnifex. Someone who looks at your Nurgle DP being used as a GUO might quite reasonably mistake it for a Nurgle DP, even just for a moment, whereas there's no mistaking a Carnifex.