As long as they arn't in a squadron... not bad. For anti-armor i have seen them work pretty well, only problem is that they are alot of points when you could get a squad of lascannons which can have 3 shoots for a fraction of the price!! It depends if you wanna move and what not.

 

The only way i'd use a vanquisher is with a hull lascannon sponson meltas and pask. You need the extra BS and other AT weapons on it incase the vanquisher battle cannon misses.

 

Yeah I have a deep love for Vanquishers so I'm dying to run one with Pask, a lascannon and camo netting, but it's so expensive. About the same cost as a landraider! In a normal game, I can't see including one (I'll still make it and keep it around) but maybe they could really shine in Apoc where people tend to roll out the heavy armor. Otherwise I'd worry about running out of targets. Without tanks to shoot, it's got no other purpose. Also I agree with Kevin, I'd never even try one without Pask. Guard BS never fails at missing when you need it.

Something I've been toying with is trying an Executioner with Pask. 4 Twin linked Missile strength shots against vehicles and MCs could work out pretty well. And when all the tanks are gone he can still mow down troops.

As for taking 3 of them, I'd advise against it. Barebones with lascannons that's a full 1/6 of your army given to 3 guns with crumby BS and no real secondary roll.

 

I dont like them. Their expensive just for a non-blast AP2 cannon. The only thing thats really significant about it is it has a higher Str and AP of a battlecannon. I would still go with the battlecannon because I still get to roll 2D6 armour pens. Plus, I remember what the vanquisher cannon use to do and Im pissed that they changed it. :rotfl:

 

Medusa >>>>>> Vanquisher

Don't bother, it sucks.

 

If the Vanquisher cannon was given a bit of spice with AP1, I'd consider it as a valid dedicated AT weapon, not just one with the *potential* to be one. It still, however, only has the potential - I ran one in an Apocalypse game a few years back. Three turns, two misses, one tank-sized wreck after a close encounter with a Flyrant.

Unless I have points to burn and I've run out of models, I may take one, but otherwise never again.

If you want an AT Russ, consider the Forgeworld LR Annihilator - 25 points cheaper and twin-linked:

 

If the Vanquisher cannon was given a bit of spice with AP1

Its a Str 8 AP2 Heavy 1. :rotfl:

 

Theres two types of Vanquisher. Ones which have Pask in and ones that don't.

If it doesn't have Pask behind the helm i wouldn't bother. It's alot of points for a BS3 one shot gun with no blast. You'd be better off with a normal Russ.

 

Ok so the general consensus is that the Vanquisher isnt worth it, what should I take instead to use for dedicated Anti Tank? At 6000 points per team (doubles tournament) I know im going to need some form of anti tank.

 

Meltagun weilding Veterans in Chimeras and the outflank ability (this IS apoc right?) should be able to knock out any armour thats lurnking near board edges or you can go for things like Deepstriking Storm trooper squads with Meltaguns.

You've also got things like the Medusa for some serious hurt against armour.

Even things like Scout sentinels with Lascannons. Cheap and hurty. 500pts for 10 lascannons that can move and fire? Should be enough to make a titan cry.

 

My ally is a necron thats doing most of the advancing, I hold the two objectives in home territory with an "Imperial Shield Company". My current non apoc list is a mech list with lots of meltas/plasmas so it can be done. Im thinking Sentinels with lascannons would be best. Cheap and effective

EDIT: Actually the cheapest way to mount Lascannons are on Vendettas, and they're twin linked! So i think Ill take 3 Vendettas which gives me 9 twin linked lascannon shots

 

Yeah thats cool. Why not take both? lol. 890 points for 10 lascannons and 9 twin lascannons.

10 individual Scout sentinels with Camo would be an absolute git to get rid of though.

 

890 Points would skew the rest of what was a very solid list, especially because my partner would have to adjust his as well. Not to mention I dont think I have the money to buy that many more sentinels AND Valks.

Also where can I get the ridiculous amounts of Lascannons I need for them? I can only scrounge up about... 13 and you need 18.

 

I play Apoc on a 8'x8' table. Vanquishers are playable there. On a smaller table or non-apoc, they are a total waste.

Even on an 8'x8' table they aren't that good, but since Apoc is about playing everything you own...

 

I dont own any vanquisher's yet, I have all the parts to convert them I just need to buy the 3 russes